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[vartor]

Sevgili commandante ve maddeoz, tercume gurubuna hosgeldiniz der, kisa zamanda pacalari sivayacagimizi bildirim.
Ilk once sitemizin ana sayfasinda, biliyor muydunuz? altindaki yazilari tercumeyle baslayalim.
* *Ilk baslik olan Atatürk' ün cenaze namazının camide kılınmadığı *konusunu commandante,

* * * Hud Suresi'nin 2. ayetini "Ben O'nun tarafından gönderilmiş bir uyarıcı ve müjdeciyim" diye yazdıran Muhammedin böylece büyük bir gaf yaptığını.konusunu da maddeoz'a veriyorum.
* *En fazla ucgun icinde bir cevap beklerim, yavas yavas bir alisirsak hizlanacagimiza eminim.

* *Ikinize de basarilar...

[maddeoz]

Vartor abim tamamdır.
En geç bir iki güne buraya eklerim çevirisini.
Saygılar.

[maddeoz]

Kuran ayetlerini çevirmek yerine bu sitedeki "kuran'ın ingilizcesi" nden doğrudan kopyalanabilir. böylece hem daha az hatalı olur hem de yorululmamış olunur.
http://www.kuranikerim.com/english/m_indexe.htm

[maddeoz]

Vartor abim ilk çeviriyi yaptım. Memleketimize hayırlı uğurlu ola.
Abicim sıradakini deyiver onu da boş bi vaktim de çevirem. (biz öğrenciyiz bizden para çıkmıyo, madem biz de böyle bi katkıda bulunalım).
Bence düzenli bi şekilde yol alırsak tüm site içeriği bir kaç ayda çevirip yayına sokarız(forumlar hariç tabi ). Sonra ver elini tüm dünyadaki atesit sitelerle bağlantıya geçmek! (memeketimizin ilkel suriye, arabistan gibi olmadığını onlara anlatak ki, bizi gördüklerinde "would you possibly write my name in arabian letters" demesinler

Bi de şey var, misal siz bnim çevirilere göz atın, bi yoklayın, ben sizinkilere, böylece bir kişinin gözünden kaçan şeyi diğeri yakalamış olur, daha doğu çeviriler yapmış oluruz. sizden ricam abim.
saygılar.

(ana sayfadaki sol kısımdaki bağlantının olduğu cümle) :
In sura Hud verse 2, Mohammed made a very big blunder by making it written as “I am sent unto you from Him to warn and to bring glad tidings.”


THE VERSES THAT MOHAMMED SPEAKS

In Islam, Quran is known as utterance of Allah. And in Islam, Allah conveys his words to Mohammed by an angel called Archangel Gabriel. So that Mohammed makes verse clerks wirte “god”s  apocalypses.

When we examine whole Quran, we see that the pronouns used inside are “me” or “we”. However if Quran is god’s utterance then only the pronoun “me” would be used. As an example unlike sentences  “we did….” the sentences  like “i did…” needed to be used. Using the pronoun “us” creates suspicions about god’s uniqueness and strength, and his abilities about doing everything. Couse, even some otorities says that its god and his angels inside the pronoun “us”, the questions such as “Wouldn’t god succed them wtihout the helping of his angels” “Why he needed his angels” has no answers and just like in many quesitons, the answers are released to“god’s fate”.

Actually our main goal in this article is much more engrossing than what we say above: The verses directly coming out from Mohammed’s mouth!

11. Sura Hud, Verse 2.
“Ye should worship none but Allah. Verily I am (sent) unto you from Him to warn and to bring glad tidings.”

Its clear to see that this is Mohammed speaking in this verse. He blunders by making the verse written from his own mouth. Some translators of Quran who realizes this blunder and try to conceal it add the word “say” in paranthesis which doesnt exist in verse originally. In a translation of Quran which is also available in our site (its copied from an islamic site) the translation is like this:

(It teached) that ye should worship none but Allah. (Say): "Verily I am (sent) unto you from Him to warn and to bring glad tidings.

In translations of Quran the words which are written in paranthesis means that “Thoose words dont exist in Quran originally but we added them for you understand it in a beter way”.

The Sura Fatiha which has totally seven verses has the similar content:

1. In the name of Allah, Most Gracious, Most Merciful.
2. Praise be to Allah, the Cherisher and Sustainer of the worlds;
3. Most Gracious, Most Merciful;
4. Master of the Day of Judgment.
5. Thee do we worship, and Thine aid we seek.
6. Show us the straight way,
7. The way of those on whom Thou hast bestowed Thy Grace, those whose (portion) is not wrath, and who go not astray.
Again its clear to see that verses are not from Allah’s speakings. Allah doesn’t even mention in verse that you should praye me in that or this way. Its sure that its a human speaking in verse Fatiha. So in speech in verse there is a blunder and an open door.

The similar case also can be seen in Sura Zahriyat’s 50th and 51th verses:
50. Therefore flee unto Allah: I am from Him a Warner to you, clear and open!
51. And make not another an object of worship with Allah: I am from Him a Warner to you, clear and open!
Its very easy to understand that its Mohammed himself speaking in verses of Quran, not Allah.
So, isnt there anyone realize this in that times? Why did they believe in Mohammed?
First, in that times reading-writing rates were so little that there were very few people who are able to examine this verses.
The seckond, the ones who talk about this crookedness were despised and accused of benig unbeliever, Â infidel and blasphemous. Also people like poest Ka’b Bin Esref paid even only criticizing Mohammed with their lives. So that it was very dangerous to talk about the truth.
And the third, the adversaries who are strong in society are quiten by bribes in the name of “making hearts close to Islam” (please check “Ones Become Muslim by Bribes” article of Turan Dursun)
Thanks Pantediar for making a list of verses where “God doesnt speak”. –Admin
Turan Dursun Site.

[vartor]

Memleketimiz, senin gibi caliskan bir ateist yetistirdigi icin ne kadar ovunse azdir.
*Eline saglik iyi olmus, yalniz mujde kelimesi ingilizcede yok gibi, sozlukte aradim, Good news, cikti. senin yazdigin "glad *tidings.” bilmem daha mi iyi oturuyor yerine?
* Hemen arkasindan gelen konuyu tercume etmege basla, bu hizla gidersek iki haftada butun dunyaya haykirmaya hazir olabiliriz. Keep up the good work.
* * * * * * * *Sevgiler...

[maddeoz]

Tamamdır abicim devam ederim.
Müjde yerine kullanılan kalıp benim değil çevirinin üstünde bağlantısını verdiğim orjinal kuran çevirisine ait, o nedenle ellemedim.
Yani işi bilen biri çevirdiğine göre bir bildiği vardır dedim.
Sıradan Devam..

[byspy]

Vartor abii bende üyeyim haberin olsun direktiflerini beklemedeyim

[simonuniti]

hey millet ben de gelmisem kurbanlar...vartor abi beni buraya cayci olarak gonderdiler

cay isteyen var mi?

[maddeoz]

Byspy, Simmoniti,
Arkadaşlar hoşgeldiniz.
Sayımızın artıyor olması çok güzel.

[simonuniti]

hosbulduk saol